alright this is information high this is
EXO along with a magical girl, Celia Rose
hey everybody and our resident mecha
expert, Chad hi there everyone. Alex do
you have any wish list things for macross
I do I mean my main wish would be for
them to just reanimate the SDF show oh
yeah! Oh like Yamato no I mean straight
just the animation, use the same voices,
same vocal tracks, same background music,
same sound effects, and because you can't
replace you know like some of the
classic stuff like Lynn Minmei and
because Hikaru Ichijo especially your Hikaru
Ichijo right you can't redo that guy
yeah no I don't really want to hear new
music from from the show but I think
they should just animate it I don't know
if you guys saw I think we talked about
this the patlabor reboot oh god yes yeah
the animation is it looks on amazing oh
my god it was it was a religious
experience almost it was so good yeah so
you see a lot of people saying like oh
if it was only like the pachinko
animation which I would be totally
against not that the pachinko animation
is bad for what it is but for a full-on
redo of the animation for the original
series it would have to be something
like the patlabor reboot that quality
yeah i agree yeah I like the pachinko
material for what it was but I just I
think people were just like really
really like fans are obviously very
excited to see like the original
characters and the original mecha
reanimated with modern animation
techniques and I admit I was as
much a fan of the pachinko production as
well it was fun time I loved I loved
that material it was it was so much fun
to see I don't think it's high quality
enough to to do a series no not at all
especially the mecha animation and i
also would want to see something like
what was done with patlabor where they
use that sort of level of accomplished
you know cg for you know the animation
quality and and and just the character
art of course it means a lot to me right
so i would i would definitely want to
see that level of quality for the
character and yeah would be would be
interesting a reanimation
certainly would it would help me sell
the show on people who have never
watched it before because as it stands
right now as much as I love, you know
super dimension fortress macross I
almost never introduced it to anybody
and I have it for a long long time let
me talking to probably 10-15 years
because it's just it's just too old
unless you're a fan of that era of
animation there's nothing wrong with
that though those are the only one
people who could really get into it at
that man it's just
it's too far behind you I remember for
the longest time whenever I was trying
to introduce any of my new friends into
anime i would use stuff like cowboy
bebop as their gateway drug so to speak
right and i find that even now today
that's actually getting a little old I
showed it to my roommate and he he liked
it he liked the movie better but yeah I
could I could tell the animation quality
just didn't have enough of a visual
punch compared to all of the other two
modern entertainment that we're used to
not just live action stuff I'm talking
about other animation as well right you
know and not just the pixar
are the DreamWorks films but other like
you know animated shows on television
why not yeah and next SDF is like one of
my favorite stories of all time not just
in anime is just I think just a one of
the greatest classic stories that's been
presented on TV or whatever yeah and I
think it deserves better animation and
you know we all know that they couldn't
do it at the time because of the budget
restrictions and everything but also
from a marketing standpoint I think they
don't have anything to lose I mean first
of all you know you're just reanimating
which is like the hardest thing of
course but they're reanimating the whole
thing and they don't have to spend so
much on I think they remastered
everything already as far as the vocal
tracks and all the you know sound
everything was yeah for the HD
releases and whatnot yeah it's already
been done yeah good done it's easy and
you know what's the best selling a
Valkyrie in the market it still to be VF-1
and for your em to ya reanimate that and
then have a new generation introduced to
the VF-1, the destroids, the sdf-1 yeah
yeah like them just remarketing the same
thing that they've been doing that you
know they could re release all the
arcadia Vakyries and maybe if you
know if it's a bigger hit now than then
they could lower the cost on those toys
and you know and then maybe have like
bigger line I mean right now everybody's
going crazy over the hi-metal R you
know over a show that was shown like 30
what six years ago 37 yeah you're you're
you're not wrong you're not wrong yeah
especially in this in the current
climate as well it's just like it's this
is a climate of
anime right now that caters to the fans in
a way that it's never you know it almost
never has before and I understand that
some people think that era is beginning
to pass and I'm sure it is nothing ever
stays the same now would mean if
new out now would be the time to do it
it'll be too late yeah I agree now would
be the time to do it and I think that
you're right in that production the
budget for a production like this would
be far reduced from like a full-blown
you know animation and what they
everything is done for you the editing
the storyboarding you know all the the
pre-production and everything like that
all the voice work in every it's all
done for you already like yeah you just
have to concentrate on the the animation
and you're getting that right and
everything was would be great if they
can do it with something like Yamato I
see no reason why macross couldn't
benefit for it or any of the other
classic shows you know like the the
Evangelion movies are pretty much a
modern attempt to retell the original
you know Neon Genesis Evangelion with
modern animation right I mean that
they're changing it up a bit and whatnot
but it's just so much of it like when I
went through those movies like so much
of it was very familiar they were
hitting a lot of the same beats you know
getting to the same points in the
stories and as the original television
series got the same sort of tone they're
editing it almost the same I think this
is definitely something that a lot of
fans have talked about you know,
reanimating the original series it's
come up again and again and I think yeah
that's also something that would be a
worthwhile macross production I'd be on
board for that and they could fix stuff
within like without changing like the
audio I mean there how far along are you
Celia I'm up to don't go
single digit on me you've been watching
this for oh hell no I'm trying to
remember the number but like it's after
Minmay wins miss Macross and like she
goes up in a plane with Hikaru and she
falls asleep and I just met her cousin
okay yeah I'm aware of what the
major plot points were after that
something with that um yeah that was
yeah yep because I interested you didn't
you're introduced to her cousin and he
looks like a douchebag I can already
tell he's not a great guy
he's just the biggest douchebag yeah he's
great though he's a great douchebag but
um these are fun is a fun character to
hate oh yeah it was great a good villain
yeah they could takes a lot of stuff
like that but they could totally
recoreograph the knife fight between Max
and Milia right yeah and a lot of
the the episodes that were done by star
pro and yeah those could really benefit
from a reanimation I don't know if
they could solve that problem with Focker's death
that spoiler Celia Focker dies oh I've
known about that this show is 35 years
old guys it's kind of hard I don't know
they could fix that but that'd be
something interesting if they even like
tried you know cuz everybody complained
about that like why did he go straight
to Claudia's house yeah but because he's
going to see the woman he loves
obviously yeah before he passes yeah the
things that I mean I get that and I love
that and I love the whole tragic part of
it but the thing where they screwed up
is they showed the those two guys the
ground crew guys kind of like reacting
to all the blood in the cockpit and I
think that's where everybody kind of
gets confused because if not if there
was that much blood in the cockpit then
you pretty much like how do you not
bleed all the way to Claudia's house
plus he also yeah how do you make it all
that way without being spotted yeah plus
he also managed to change clothes you
know yeah that there's stuff that they
could I've never really been bothered by
that it was just like it was it was more
to the character state of mind I mean he
didn't want to spend his he knew it was
over right at that point he didn't want
to spend the last moments of his life in
a hospital he wanted to spend them with
Claudia exactly I got that right now I do
like the SDF death more than the DYRL
everybody's always saying like oh that
one's better because it makes more sense
no I like it better on the SDF
absolutely yeah i like i like the SDF
version as well that's that's the far
superior version could you imagine how
cool Milia throwing her baby is going
to look in the updated animation thank
you like here
that would be legendary yeah just
everything like there's so many
sequences even that even the well
animated sequences that would be just
great to see in modern techniques like
millia's first appearance oh and she's
delivering the spies to the sdf-1
Macross and whatnot there's that whole
action sequence where she launches where
she gets involved in the fighting that's
taking place around the Macross and
everything like that to even her escape
and stuff you know I would love to see
it choreographed the same way but I
would adore to see it with new animation
techniques and effects I think that
would look just Oh gorgeous yeah the
combat scenes alone would be worth it yeah
yeah that's actually one thing that too
that I like I would want to stipulate as
well like when we're talking about a
reanimation I would want a lot of the
original action sequences or at least
the good one good ones you know which I
would want their choreography kept like
that that battle that fight like the one
where you know the episode where Focker
dies there they have a momentous battle
between Max and Millia and it is the
choreography in that even though the
animation isn't up to it the
choreography is incredible and the
editing of that action sequence it's one
of the best action sequences in all of
macross still to this day just because
of the way it's put together you know
the way that it would the way they
create the action and the tension and
the mentum and everything with it is
just incredible i watch that sequence
and I'm still blown away by it and they
have they have these interesting quick
cuts with some of the mecha as well
where they show just bits and pieces of
the mecha like at various stages while
they're maneuvering and everything and
it's just it's incredible an absolutely
accomplished piece of a animation and
I any sort of reanimating of that I
would want that kept I would want that
staging kept intact absolutely to
editing the staging everything I would
want those the choreography I would want
it all kept intact just using you know
just doing a modern update on it totally
cool so that's my pitch yeah SDF
re-animation
a worthy one if ever there was yeah
that's another thing that a lot of
people want you know they talked about
and I thought yes I thought it was just
me
but you know no that's been
something that's been oh that's that's
appeared over and over again in for like
a lot of years and then the macross that's
my specifics so you know the yeah the
anime fan community as well like I know
lots of people on like anime nation and
ann everything like that they've talked
about it over the years for sure it's
been a popular one absolutely yeah
because i think is for longtime fans we
all loved the original anime and we will
never get tired of watching it even if
it was reanimated i would still watch
the original anime that's how much of a
crazy fan i am but i think we also all
understand that yeah it's like it's it
was never one of the best animated show
as we ever watched you know even for the
time I mean I grew up on like the studio
the studio ghibli films one of my first
anime films I ever watched with Nausicaa
the valley of the wind right which is a
to this day it's a gorgeous yeah
animated movie right and that is very
very old and I love that movie it's just like
you know i would i would love for you
know for macross to have at least
you know some sort of the original
macross to have that kind of you know
quality to it at least or if not like
modern sort of quality and i would i
would definitely be on board for a
reanimation of the classic for sure oh
yeah i think i'd be down for it too
especially as we know that mikimoto art
looks really good in the modern
animation kabaneri of the iron
fortress yeah yes you know and he hasn't
done anything was macross the first
so when he's done with Kabaneri
season two he could work on this one
this reanimating you know would you
start over to a like you're in
the middle would you like say neither
was like we got to start all over again
no I would still finish it um yeah I
still finish mostly because like I think
there is some credit to seeing it in its
original format like because like the
Yamato reboot for example was yamato
2199 because i haven't seen the original
yamato or Star Blazers and but Craig has
them when we review
for reanimated you know he was able to
point out some of the differences and
how they applied some of those
differences was good in the remake but
it's not exactly the same as the
original and that you know sometimes
that happens when you have the reboots
and sometimes it's for it works out
really well like in Yamato 2199 you have
a female pilot that I can't I remember
her name now but she ends up being a
replacement for a pilot was originally
male in the original Yamato if i remember
correctly like it was her brother or
something but it worked out really well
for the for the reboot you know so some
things don't carry over a hundred
percent but with sometimes it works out
for the better of the show so I think it
all really just depends on how they
would handle it there are some things
like you know changing the choreography
for some things that really weren't is
weren't is great the first time around
or like maybe like one of the sequences
that sticks out in my mind is when they
reuse the same animation loop for the
Valkyries flying in and like I think
episode 4 or 5 they're like you could
tell that they reused the same like cell
like same cells for that sequence until
Roy's plane comes in and they had to
paint his you know skull squadron stuff
on last so because they couldn't reuse
it after that you know so so some of
those things I think the reboot was
really nice for for fixing and just
bringing like a an updated freshness to
really Mikimoto's art like that's one of
my favorite things about the original is
Mikimoto's character designs and
his artwork in the original series yeah
I agree I agree very much so they'd have
to keep that character art intact it's
it's as much macross as anything else
any other part of macross the original
well i'm glad you guys are along for
the ride hopefully that's something that
they consider and consider soon like we
mentioned you know it's now or never
well yeah it's definitely does not never
but yeah it would be it would be most
appropriate you know in this in the
current era for sure let's close it out
Celia rose where can we find you when
you're not on information hi I'm
actually in a lot of places these days
I've been super busy so you can find me
on facebook com /
celiarose cosplay you can also find me on
Twitter at planets twinkle i'm also a
regular member of the reanimated podcast
which is part of the repacked podcast
family on itunes and i'm also going to
be at sakuracon and hosting a macross
meet up the weekend of april 14th
through April sixteenth with Alex, Chad
where can we find you you can of course
visit my site they macross mecha manual
you can also email me at marching CW at
hotmail com and of course you can check
out the official facebook page for the
Macross mecha manual which is
facebook.com slash Macross mecha manual
and this is EXO you could find me on our
new group on facebook it's macross fan
central that's facebook.com slash groups
/ Macross fans central all one word or
you could find me on macross central or
the macross Delta page see ya bye
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