G: Demich, I can't see any turbines here. D: Guram, there're no turbines here, they're in Germany.
G: Here we go again, initially we wanted to film BMW M4, but seems like we'll end up filming the elevator. So let's tell about the car.
D: What kind of car is this?
G: This is BMW M4 Competition Package,
Competition is a special BMW M4, that's different from stock in terms of increased engine output,
different suspension, "competition" inscriptions on the body and so on. BMW actually lies.
This obviously was a BMW job, that sound.
I'll tell you why: brand new M4 has 431 HP, I don't know why couldn't they write 430 HP in the passport though.
Competition package has 450 HP, as BMW representatives claim.
This car actually showed 430 wheel HP on a dyno in Moscow, which is an approximate equivalent of 490, even 500 engine HP.
Imagine - you go to a market to buy some fruit, then you return home and find out that the vendor has made a mistake in your favour.
A generally pleasant feeling, also if you look at it from a practical standpoint - your HP tax is smaller thus you pay less, which saves big sums of money.
So it's easier for them to set the engine output low and say that for example a car has 450 HP instead of 500 HP
so that such car could be far more impressive with 450 HP than it should have been.
A brief history of the car. Firstly, its owner is crazy about cars, totally our kind of guy: petrol instead of blood and all that.
As for the car itself, it was purchased in the autumn of 2016, it was instantly tested at a dyno, the engine output was measured and as I said earlier, it showed 430 wheel HP
its acceleration from 100 KMH to 200 KMH (60 MPH - ~125 MPH) was also measured - with a semi-full tank it showed 8.5 seconds.
Of course it's not that fast, but for a stock car it's nevertheless good.
For the sake of deeper understanding and comparison - stock BMW M3 and M4 (not competition package) go 100 KMH - 200 KMH (60 MPH - ~125 MPH) for approximately 9 - 9.5 seconds.
Next, full Akrapovic exhaust system was installed. Aside from that, radiator was changed, the air cooling system here is based upon the use of liquid.
Intake was also improved and engine control unit (ECU) was tuned by K8 Strasse.
So, in the end, after all these modifications: full exhaust, cooling, intake, ECU tuning - the car showed 510 wheel HP at a dyno which is close to 590 - 600 engine HP.
Cool. But there is a big problem - turbines were dying at high RPM, it means that after 5000 RPM the power starts to fall down meaning that the turbines are not good enough.
In other words they display these long-rumored 600 HP up until some point, but they can't keep it up until the cut-off point.
So what the owner has done to change that, he opened the hood, took these small, teeny weeny turbines, sent them to Germany, ordered modified turbines and very soon they'll be under the hood of this car.
What to expect? New turbines promise 600-620 wheel HP which amounts to 700 engine HP.
700 engine HP, you must wonder: "Guram, the stock car displays 500 HP, now you talk 700 HP. What about the rods and pistons? Won't the engine crumble?"
It won't, because world practice shows that a stock motor can handle 700-750 wheel HP well.
The thing is, we got a very solid 3 litre block that strongly resembles a 2JZ-GTE block.
It's not cast iron, but it's still made from special alloy materials, that can handle big numbers of power and torque.
New M3 and M4 can be purchased with 2 kinds of gearboxes. First is a mechanical 6 speed gearbox, second is a 7 speed dual clutch robot gearbox.
The question arises: mechanical gearbox handles the power without problems, it's easier in many ways.
Robot gearbox is more complicated: you can't surpass 950 NM of torque, because if you do stock clutch plates won't manage, if you plan to go 950+ NM of torque - change the plates.
There is a way: DODSON offers reinforced clutch plates that can handle 1000+ NM of torque.
But in this case the owner doesn't plan to surpass 900 NM of torque and plans to keep the stock gearbox.
Modified turbines, full exhaust, intake and improved cooling system. By the way, let's go check it out.
So we're back at my favourite place. G: See this thing? What do you think it is?
D: Uhhhh G: You don't know, look
The air goes through this intercooler, the latter is cooled not by the air itself, but by the liquid, radiator of which is placed here and this is where it's cooled by the flow of air.
he way traveled by air from turbines to intake receiver is very small
not big as it could have been if it would go all the way through the whole system, which it its turn would increase the lag.
Lag happens when you press the pedal and the reaction is slow.
BMW, being a fan of old naturally aspirated motors with great reaction
keeps an eye on flash-like pedal to car reaction even in case of turbo motors
and I'd like to tell you that the liquid cooling system is great - despite being tuned
meaning that the intake temperature is increased a priori, even when the pedal is pushed to the floor and the car generally is driven fast frequently
the intake temperature stays at 27 degrees. It's ideal.
The grip problem, lots of power and torque on rear axle. You'll always have this problem.
Don't think that by increasing wheel width you'll be able to eventually get a good grip
this won't happen, this is not how it works.
If you increase the width, you consequently decrease pressure put on a square centimeter of the wheel.
You have to play with the compound. This car has Michelin Pilot Supersport tires.
It should be good, it's not slim, 295.
But it still slips all the time, even when the speed is 100 KMH+ (60MPH+), because of the torque.
What is the solution? Mickey Thompson semi slicks. This car can't exist otherwise.
G: Dem, you know D: I do
G: Yes, so Dema asked me why…fuck…excuse me for a second
D: Guram, this is not the first time I hear this last name, Akrapovic? It he your family or something?
G: No, if it was like that, it would be Akrapovidze, nevertheless Akrapovic is high-grade, very cool exhaust system.
It can draw a parallel between world of fashion and exhaust systems:
in the clothes department we have top brands like brioni and zilli, but if we talk exhaust, it's Akrapovic.
Their products cost a lot, but if you have money - buy it and never think more about exhaust issues, which is what the owner of this car did.
Full Akrapovic exhaust including downpipes. The car is of course decat.
What else was done with this M4 - full circle KW suspension Version 3
perfect handling thanks not only to the aforementioned suspension
but notably to good chassis, that was made by BMW, M3 and M4 have great chassis.
And most importantly, the thing I'm most thankful for, thank you very much indeed - BMW decided not to increase the car mass, it's heavy enough already.
The car weighs almost 1650 KG (~3650LBS), previous M3 in 90, 92 body weighed the same. If they increased the weight and made it 1.8 tons (~4000LBS)
I would just quit it and not film the test drive.
By the way, how much does it cost in general, let's turn to Auto.ru.
So we go to the web site, BMW brand, M4 model. Somewhat 20 M4s are available right now, starting price 3.5 mil rubles.
G: Why haven't you asked me yet about the carbon ceramic brakes?
D: I just know by heart that I don't even have to pose this question
G: Unfortunately this car doesn't have them
D: Thank god G: No, it has steel brakes, cast iron, standard brakes
D: How did this happen? Why?
G: I don't know, when I asked Andrew and said "Andrew, why did you buy a car that has insufficiently powerful stock brakes?".
It's possible to buy carbon-ceramic brake discs, calipers are the same.
Carbon ceramic brakes are offered optionally by BMW, but so that you know even pre-used brakes will cost you 300k rubles.
D: All-circle?
G: Yeah, pre-used, I don't even want to start talking about new ones, they'll cost you 500k rubles, half a mil for brakes
In the last but one live, where we showed you a very cool white G63, by the way if you haven't seen it, go check it out on our channel, find the video.
We asked our viewers and subscribers to ask questions in the comments with a hashtag #вопросдт (#aquestiontodt).
We've assembled all the questions and there are a lot of them, but we still want more to film a video with all the answers so if you have any questions regarding:
so if you have any questions regarding: this car, previous cars we've reviewed, cars we'll review in the future, the filming process - any questions at all
post them in the comments with a hashtag #вопросдт (#aquestiontodt).
The interior is all right because it's BMW, I've always like their interiors the most.
Placement of control elements and gearbox, steering wheel and its width - it all pleases me.
There are elements that show that it's an M - speedometer peaking at 330 KMH (~205MPH) for instance,
DCT robot gearbox shifter that only M cars have, M steering wheel
that is optional because it can be installed in a stock 3 series, but still only an expert would tell this car apart from a 320 diesel interior-wise.
D: Listen, is it a definitive two-seat car or is there a chance to give a lift to a mother-in-law and drop her out at dacha [suburban property]?
G: You're a damned whip. Why take her there? Should you also make the bed for her?
Actually free space in the back is limited and you have to understand that, after all it's a two-seat coupe, back seats are highly relative.
This is an egoist car: pilot here, girl there, 700 HP, rear wheel drive - let's go
D: Or it might be a Tuner
G: Very well might be. You see there is a certain romance attached to tuning:
Saturday evening night, a BMW, free highway, you're seated in the car with your mechanic. Gay party, but what can you do. Hot dog joint.
We had a similiar car with alike stats on unlim, it was a gold BMW M4.
I suppose that each subscriber knows it. By the way, it'll also be on unlim this year.
Its' stats correspond to the future stats of the M4 I'm reviewing right now.
Just to inform you: the gold M4 turned out to be faster than Ferrari F12 Berlinetta in a half-mile run. This is no joke.
"A synchronised start of both pilots, they go side by side, we'll see what happens next.
BMW took the lead, what a surprise! Baby M4 punished F12, what a result.
Modified turbines did a great job, 261 KMH (~162MPH) against Ferrari's 250KMH (~155MPH)".
All the advantages BMW M4 Competition Package had:
suspension, what we have now is a KB suspension, don't need Competition anymore, exhaust, we have Akrapovic, different ECU settings - we have K8 Strasse firmware.
D: So Andrew could buy a stock M4 instead of Competition Package?
G: Seems like he could. You are naturally wondering: why the fuck buy Competition Package?
A righteous question, if you're not looking to tune the car and want to leave it at stock preset, which is also possible.
Dad, do stock cars exist? No, son, it's a fantasy.
But such fantasies occur in real life, a lot of people leave their cars at stock.
In this case Competition Package is faster than a regular M3 or M4, it's got better handling and sound.
It's so great that globalisation hasn't spread to top models of junior classes.
Because if senior classes are all similar - four wheel drive, near the same engine capacity.
Put it crudely, what you choose in fact is an interior that you like the most and a brand that you worship religiously
If we talk M3, M4 and C63 ///AMG, everything is different.
Because M cars offer smaller mass and better handling.
Plus a more playful, amusing personality, but unfortunately such cars are more simple interior-wise and their exhaust notes leave a lot to be desired.
I'm sorry to break your dreams, but even Akrapovic can't perform a miracle with a V6 turbo, in terms of sound it was born dead.
Finally, it was our friend Andrew's BMW M4 Competition Package that soon will have 700 HP turbines:
full exhaust, cooling system and everything else is already here. We'll most certainly show you the process of tuning this car on a dyno.
We'll also film a test drive on public roads and go to a track to show its full capacity without having to break the traffic code.
If you liked the car, like the video and please answer the following question: you're to choose between a new M4, C63 and RS5 - what's your choice and why?
Give your answers in the comment section, I wonder what manufacturer is the most popular among our viewers. Thank you.
This was DT Live, my name is Guram, subscribe, like the video and see you soon!
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