Trey Gowdy Exposes The Shocking Truth About Jeff Sessions Trump Responds
so joining us now South Carolina congressman trey Gowdy chairman of the
House Oversight and Government Reform Committee also a member of the House
Intel committee and you were one of those who saw some of the background
documents related to this issue of whether or not there was a spy or an
informant in the campaign late last week anything you can share on a broad scale
about what went down there I think there two things important to understand
number one the source of president Trump's frustration a Brennan said he
should be in the dustbin of history Comey said impeachments too good of a
remedy clapper doesn't like him Loretta Lynch said call it a matter not an
investigation shift said he had evidence of collusion before we even began the
investigation and 60 Democrats have voted to impeach him before Bob Muller
has come up with a single solitary finding that's what's got him frustrated
what should have him hearten is the fact that Chris Rae rod Rhodes and Stein and
all the senior folks at DOJ now were all Trump appointees so here's what's fair
to ask what did the FBI do when did they do it what was the factual predicate
upon which they took whatever actions they took and against whom were they
directed but remember Martha it was President Trump himself who said number
one I didn't collude with Russia but if anyone connected with my campaign did I
want the FBI to find that out it looks to me like the FBI was doing what
President Trump said I want you to do find it out he's not the target
so when Schiff and others don't make that clear they're doing a disservice to
our fellow citizens he's not the target but this raises the question that the
president raised in the in this one of those tweets there were a lot of them
and which we talked about quite a bit here last week is if that were the case
why didn't they give him a little briefing so here's what we found out we
know we do have somebody who asked some questions of George papadopolis we do
have somebody who's asked questions of a Carter page here's what you need to know
I think defensive briefings are done a lot and why the Comey FBI didn't do it I
don't know but Chris ray and rod Rhodes had signed up at least made it clear to
us Donald Trump was never the target of the investigation he's not the current
target in the investigation now keep that can all change depending on what a
witness says but as of now I think Chris Rhea and rod Rosenstein are stunned
whenever people think Trump is the target of their investigation I'll leave
it up to them how to brief the president had a briefing you're talking about
right now was that strengthened when you went into this briefing last week yes I
am I am even more convinced that the FBI did exactly what my fellow citizens
would want them to do when they got the information they got and that it has
nothing to do with Donald Trump all right so given the things that we're
over here on your right hand all the frustrations do you think it's
problematic the way the president has is tweeting about this all the time because
because he feels like he needs to get used to vent he's got to get his message
out there is it legally problematic in your mind what he's doing I think
anytime you create prior statements you give Muller or other folks a chance to
question you on them and ask what was your factual basis why did you say that
the president should have access to the best legal minds in the country and I
think you should take advantage of those and he's got some really good
communicators that are on his staff and at his at his call if I were his lawyer
and I never will be I would tell him to rely on his lawyers
in his comms phone here's one of them Rudy Giuliani's speaking with Bill
Hemmer over the holiday weekend watch this what's wrong with the government
trying to figure out what Russia was up to nothing wrong with the government
doing that everything wrong with the government spying on a candidate of the
opposition party that's a Watergate a spy gate I mean and without any warning
to him and now to compound that to make it into a criminal investigation bill
that's why this is a rigged investigation there are two things wrong
with what the former US Attorney said number one no one knows whether this is
a criminal investigation Mahler was told to do a counterintelligence
investigation into what Russia did a number two President Trump himself in
the Comey memo said if anyone connected with my campaign was working with Russia
I want you to investigate it and it sounds to me like that is exactly what
the FBI did I think when the president finds out what happened he's
going to be not just fine he's going to be glad that we have an FBI that took
seriously what they heard he was never the target Russia sounds to me as if you
would advise him that there's no problem with him sitting down with Robert Muller
oh absolutely no IIIi have always said I think you ought to sit down with Bob Moe
you've told us publicly there was no collusion you've told us publicly there
was no obstruction say in private what you've said publicly limit the scope to
exactly what the what the Muller memo is but but if he were my client and I'd say
if you've done nothing wrong then you need to sit down and tell
Muller what you know you know we had there was one judge who said that the
the scope was all over the place do you feel comfortable with the scope of this
investigation and do you feel like your committee has has been shared with to
the extent that that exists that the scope exists I'm not sure what the scope
of the Muller probe is but I know this Rosen Stein is the one who created a
memo it's not Bob Mulder's fault remember I have I have I've seen the
memo that you've seen also the other memo some of my colleagues want to see
is a more narrow investigate Russia and all anything related to it and as a
throwaway line at the end and of course if there's any criminality look at that
to me we run towards the criminality but I would think everyone would want to
know what Russia did so so let me with whom if anyone is the second part the
first question is what did Russia do let's see try thank you very much good
to see you congressman okay so trey Gowdy is one of the people
who has seen the documents he's read them he's also been briefed in the
classified briefing and is saying that he doesn't have a problem with what the
FBI did as far as an informant in or in or around the Trump campaign here's the
president last night how do you like the fact they had people infiltrating our
campaign can you imagine it was President Trump
himself who said number one I didn't collude with Russia but if anyone
connected with my campaign did I want the FBI to find that out what worries me
beyond the Russians themselves or the collusion issue but the president's
willingness to kind of make broad-based ad hominem attacks against the whole
integrity of the FBI so what about this and where we stand and the Attorney
General Sessions comments all of it let's bring in our panel byron york
chief political correspondent of the Washington Examiner AV Stoddard
associate editor at Real Clear Politics and guide Benson political editor
townhall.com also on radio with Marie harf who our guest right now is holding
down the fort she is okay your thoughts on trey Gowdy and what this means for
the investigation well I think we have to pay very close attention to what Trey
Gowdy's saying because he has extraordinary access to actual
information about this we all chatter about it and speculate all day and all
night but he knows more than 99.99% of us do because he's seen actual documents
so when he comes out and says this was an appropriately predicated
investigation and the informant within the Trump campaign was not a spy were
acting inappropriately in any way I think that matters and many in the media
are seizing on that element of his interview with Martha McCallum but the
quote also to me that sticks out he said quote it has nothing to do with Donald
Trump himself that is significant if Gowdy is saying if there was this
informant which there was what he was examining was not targeting the
president that matters biron that's true I mean as that you
look at the coverage around the horn of the second part you really got chopped
off all day today first part got ignored the the second part I think there are a
couple of reasons to explain this one trey Gowdy as a federal prosecutor I
think has more trust in the Justice Department than Devin Nunez does I think
it's pretty clear there but I knew we should point out that we haven't heard
from Devin Nunez he was out and about and talking a lot until that briefing
and he has not talked about the briefing there are other people who are in the
briefing who have not talked about it as well he is not the
only one but I think the important thing to remember is the house was trying to
get documents about this informant they were trying to say for example did the
informant issue give reports to the Justice Department if the important if
that the informant talked to George papadopolis did you write it up did he
give it to the Justice Department the fact is they haven't seen that stuff yet
so the Justice Department can say we followed all the rules everything's
great don't worry about it we did it by the book but the house hasn't seen the
stuff yet the other question is if the president-elect is getting classified
briefings as president-elect why is he not in the loop if it had nothing to do
with President Trump why is he not told what the informant is trying to do about
finding any Russian connection in those briefings one would think that he had
briefings along the way he was briefed the Clinton campaign was briefed they
were told that this was happening and that this look the people are
questioning Trey Gowdy's are there imputing his integrity his his motive
here today no no no no but I'm talking about his critics here I'm talking about
people calling him the phony saying he's covering up for a corrupt FBI because in
the fever swamps and in tribal battle people want to paint this like he's a
secret Loretta Lynch Hillary Clinton Obama partisan fighting to cover up a
corrupt FBI he is doing this because he knows that what President Trump is doing
is what Senator Warner describes he's launching an assault on the intelligence
community and the law enforcement agencies that we depend on in this
country and he's doing it knowingly what is Rudy Giuliani running around telling
reporters in town the president thinks this is working he's branded at Spygate
it's working it this is a campaign to discredit Bob Muller's findings and
nothing else Trump knows there was no spy
infiltrating his campaign he knows that it wasn't him that they were after that
they were checking out Russians that were trying to get into his campaign and
connect with his campaign but he's doing it anyway okay here you mentioned
senator Warner here's something else under Warner said about the
investigation overall people I've got exhaustion from the day-to-day
back-and-forth of this story I think the American public will be will be tired of
it if this is not wound down in this calendar year I mean I think that's
significant he's part of the Intelligence Committee that was looking
into this who was really aggressive at the beginning and seems to be kind of
saying we got to wrap this thing up by the end of 2018 whether it's before the
midterms or we're after basically echoing the vice-president
from a few weeks ago urging robert muller to get this thing finished up
soon and i think it makes sense on some level investigations don't need to be
unending and forever which seems to be the standard that some Trump critics
want in this case it's a cloud that continues to hang over him if the point
is to prevent the Russians and other hostile powers from influencing our
elections again in the future as they attempted to do in 2016 it would be nice
to know what happened before the next election
so what Warner said there I think you're right is significant a Democrat saying
okay let's go the other story obviously the New York Times had this story not a
surprise to some people that the president may have said why don't you
get back in the game to attorney General Sessions on his recusal here is the
president on tape and also trey Gowdy weighing in on this he should have told
me before he took the job and I would pick somebody else if I were the
president and I picked someone to be the country's chief law enforcement officer
and they told me later oh by the way I'm not going to be able to participate in
the most important case in the office I would be frustrated to learn I think the
the sound you played from the president was from July of last year he's still
mad about it I mean he's always going to be to be mad about it because he
believes that the grounds that sessions used to recuse himself were knowable
before the sessions was even appointed attorney general and I think when trey
Gowdy said hey maybe the the sessions could have said wait a minute I
have to recuse myself from this extremely important case president is
clearly still mad about it but frustrated because the chairman of the
Senate Judiciary Committee who would be responsible for confirming a successor
as Attorney General has basically said that the White House
I think we're busy I don't think we can confirm another Attorney General thank
you god bless you and God bless america
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