Waching daily Nov 28 2017

- Do you use an electric toothbrush?

- I do.

- Okay.

- Do you?

- Yeah.

I've tried different ones actually.

- I have too.

I'm kind of obsessive about my teeth though so.

- Oh, really?

- Mm-hmm.

- We have wonderful teeth.

- Thank you.

I have braces for like two years.

- I had two sets of braces.

- Did you?

Why?

- I had a huge gap between my teeth.

Like, do you see that huge gap

and then the other one had a huge gap.

So then I had a first set of braces

that brought them all together,

and then right as I went through puberty

they went full on and put them all over

and then I did like the real...

So they had to put them together first before--

- And then straighten them out.

- Yeah.

(melodious instrumental music)

What I'm interested in is,

is really how you,

how did you come to this project?

How did you get to this material?

And how did you...

Why were you fascinated in the first place?

- I didn't know you were gonna segue

into an actual serious questions.

I was still dicking around a bit.

Okay, um...

But to answer that question.

I read this script.

It was I, Tonya was the script on spec.

It was later released on the Black List,

but it was an available script and

when I read it was just

one of the best scripts I've ever read in my life.

It was very original, very unconventional.

Very scary, which made it exciting as well,

like, how the hell do you pull this off?

And obviously had an incredible character

at the center of it,

but also a lot of incredible characters around her.

And I don't really enjoy...

I don't like acting on my own, I really...

In fact any scene where I'm on my own I,

that makes me really scared.

- But you are incredible in the scene

in front of the mirror

where you're putting on your makeup, that scene...

I mean maybe you should be doing more of the things

that you don't feel comfortable with--

- That's true.

- That scene in front of the mirror is such beautiful work.

- [Margot] Thanks.

- It's such beautiful work.

- That was kind of improvised in the moment actually.

Our DP, Nico, was just like,

"Get her to look at camera and just be getting ready."

And yeah, and then I, I don't know,

it was like an overwhelming day anyway

and then it turned to like the crying.

But yeah, it was one of those weird moments on set

that actually translated well in screen.

- It's beautiful.

And the mirror is such a,

such an interesting thing for an actor

where vanity is such a large part.

I think though we try and pretend

like it's not of what we do,

either trying to avert it or trying to

sort of move towards it or whatever it is.

And it's so interesting when you have an idea of someone

or you have an idea of a character that they're playing

and then all of a sudden that character

is put in front of a mirror

and then they have to sort of

you, yourself have to face yourself

and then you also have to face all the things that you

are dealing within the character that you're playing.

And I felt like in that moment it was so...

I'm always so moved by people

and the risks that you take

not only a character but as a person

and that's what I felt in that moment.

I was like,

you are really risking a lot with this

and it seemed like you did a lot

as a producer and also as an actor on it

and you put yourself into it fully.

And it feels like,

not to say that moment is like

the microcosm of the whole thing,

but it is really telling to see how much you cared

and how much she cared.

And how much pressure was on her?

How much pressure is on you?

I love that.

That's the I like, as an actor I'm eating that up.

I will say it one last time, it's beautiful work.

- Thanks.

Thank you.

(sighs)

(sighs)

I feel like the similarities of what we went through

and that we were both playing real-life people

in a situation that didn't happen that long ago.

And there's obviously the added responsibility

when you play a real-life person who's still alive.

And that was like an interesting thing to tackle

and I'm sure you had

a different experience and a very,

I'm guessing a very emotional experience

because of his story.

But how was playing Jeff

and playing a real-life person

and just that story in general?

- It was a huge responsibility.

I felt like a pressure beyond the pressure I've ever felt

in terms of playing a character because you're...

Like you said, you want to do the situation,

the service that it deserves.

What is the truth, right?

What is being honest?

What is respecting the situation while at the same time

illuminating what's real?

And in the case of Jeff,

I think he was struggling with trying to...

He's a guy who was standing there,

holding a sign for his girlfriend that he was sort of

had just broken up with and then gotten back together with

and he was trying to show her that he was committed to her

and then he could show up.

And he shows up and then all of a sudden he's there

when the explosion happens and then

he wakes up he loses both of his legs.

So I think he was just trying to recalibrate everything

and everything happened so fast, not just that like

within a year people were "Write a book.

"Write a book about your story."

And then it was like,

"Be this symbol for all these people.

"Oh wait, they want to make a movie of it."

And I think I felt that from him and I felt like

I didn't want to pressure him too much,

but there was this massive responsibility to get it right.

And I think,

I'm sure you understand, what is the truth is always,

is always so complicated.

And what I always find interesting

is you always want to empathize with whoever you're playing,

that's like that seeming job of what we do,

is to say how do you love this person.

And yet they've done things that are hard or tough on people

or have been incredibly complicated in the world

and yet you have to stand with them in some way.

So what are you two ladies slumming here for anyway?

- I'm collecting donations for the marathon.

- No...

- Yeah.

- Oh, right.

- Yeah.

- You got a jar, huh.

With pictures of yourself.

That's so great.

So you show people pictures of yourself

and then you ask for money.

- Yes.

- In terms of you, like how...

The truth of the situation, loving her,

I'm sure you love her.

Did you spend time with her?

Did you...

- By the sounds of it, I didn't,

not the way I think you might have,

I actually wanted to keep a bit of distance in...

I knew that if I met her and liked her

I would never play this character properly.

- Yeah.

- I would be sugarcoating her flaws.

I'd be trying to justify the bad things

that she may do or say in a situation.

And I didn't want to do that

because I'm a people pleaser and I know it

and I just like...

So I really needed to know that it was a character

and not a person that I was playing.

So even though that doesn't sound--

- No, it makes total sense. - What I was doing,

but it needed to be like that,

in my head I had to have them completely

compartmentalize in different places in my brain.

So there was the character of Tonya

and then there was the person that I'm telling their story

and there's the responsibility to do their story justice

and it's a weird thing to

try and make something entertaining

and entertaining doesn't always mean funny or happy--

- But it is funny I mean--

- But it did, there are funny moments

and there's horrible moments.

It's like life, it's entertaining

but to entertain in a meaningful way.

I don't think you can really do that if you're not,

if you're sugarcoating something

and I didn't want to do that.

So I did all my character prep before meeting her.

And there's so much footage on her

from 15 to the age she is now.

So that was an amazing resource,

I could study her mannerisms, her dialect,

the story, everything she went through her life.

I could do all my research, I could do all my prep

and I wanted to have that all done

and decide exactly how I was gonna play the character

every single beat and and then meet her.

And to meet her I didn't want it to feel like research,

I didn't want to meet her

and change any of the decisions I had already made.

I'd already kind of done that,

I'm not going to change it now.

And then I met her pretty much just so I could say,

"Hi, I'm playing a character

"and I want you to know that there's a

"difference in my mind between

"the character I'm playing and you

"and I just hope you understand that

"when you one day see this movie."

because I can't let that hold me back on set.

- But I think it portrays her in a...

I think you were all very

kind and thoughtful and

respectful of her situation and I also think that

the movie exists in a tone.

The tone of the movie is like

just slightly from off from reality in that space.

So I think it allows for you to enjoy it.

Like you're saying,

I think it is really entertaining to watch

because you're like, you're rooting for this person,

you're laughing with them and at them too

and all the characters around her.

But I think in the meantime you're really being

really respectful of her story.

And really of other people

who are affected by all this stuff too so.

- Yeah.

The fact that it wasn't a traditional biopic

gave us the freedom to like really go for things on set.

And you hear the story from

so many different people's perspective

that when when we're telling Tonya's version,

it's 100% what I'm saying.

But when we're telling Jeff's version,

you know I'm acting the way he said

that Tonya acted in that scenario,

even though Tonya didn't...

I mean the whole thing was born out of these interviews

that Steven, our writer did with both Tonya and Jeff

that totally contradicted each other,

both their stories contradicted each other completely.

And that was the structure of the film,

to kind of have these unreliable narrators it would seem

because their stories kept contradicting each other and

I loved that and it did give that freedom on set to be like,

this is now someone else's version of the story,

so I'm gonna play it totally different right now.

- Did you find yourself while you were,

while you guys were shooting, did you find yourself like

take to take,

pushing it a little farther?

Because there are these long one take shots a lot of them,

sometimes probably are merged and post and things like that

but I feel like maybe in those spaces did you just say,

"Okay, I'm gonna go farther and then push it farther

"then I'll bring it back and push it farther."

Or was there, like when you say you made

very specific choices.

Did you make those choices early on

or did you make them change them

a little bit on the day or--

- It always like, you know how it is on set when sometimes

a situation just escalates,

especially when you have like co-stars like

Sebastian and Allison who don't hold back at all.

And we would kind of know how to provoke one another

in a really respectful way.

But we knew when to change the line

and say something different that

would take it to the next level.

So it always escalated,

but it always escalated in a very organic way,

so it never felt over the top, it never felt melodramatic.

Because as long as you have out of conviction,

it feels true.

When it stops feeling true that's when I think,

even if you're not doing it, even if you're not screaming

it doesn't feel true, then I think people stop,

it doesn't seem like you're doing good acting I suppose.

So no matter how big we got with these characters

having out of conviction in our point of view,

which was the coolest thing about script

'cause everyone had they're point of view,

their truth that they were sticking to,

like the name of it is I, Tonya.

I, Tonya, this is my version,

he's like "Oh, I'm Jeff and this is my version.

To have that out of conviction meant

that we could get bigger and bigger.

It also helped that we had footage,

especially for someone like Allison Janney

who's playing the mom LaVona,

who has a fur coat and a bowl cut

and giant glasses and a bird on her shoulder.

And if we had suggested that to Allison on the day

maybe she'd be like,

"Guys, I think this is kind of overkill maybe on the nose."

or whatever.

But the fact that we have footage

of Tonya's mom wearing a fur coat

with a bird on her shoulder and all that stuff I mean

the people themselves gave us the liberty

to really go for it because we had that footage,

we knew that that's what they did and said at the time.

- Man, I wish Jeff's mom had a bird on her shoulder.

- She's such a good character.

Talk about like great moms in the film.

- Great moms.

- Well, great in--

- Let's talk about our moms.

No, um...

Yeah, yeah.

- How was she...

- I was just thinking if we had had footage like that

it would have been incredible.

I only had footage of Jeff that New York Times had done

really like a few,

about a month and a half after,

maybe a little bit longer

after Jeff had gotten out of the hospital,

and he was just sort of trying to figure out his life.

And I had asked Jeff,

you know they won a Pulitzer of this,

the guys who did this piece on him.

And I asked Jeff if he could get me

all the outtakes of all this stuff,

because I could really see

how he was moving around the world

at that time which I can...

In spending lots of time with him I could do it day to day

before we were shooting in prep,

but I just no idea what he was like before.

There were only a few photographs,

they're only stories people told.

And everybody wanted this story to be a particular thing,

so you had kind of to pull apart

all the enmeshment of the family

and everybody's idea of that day in particular

and then everything after it.

And then,

in the way, it's interesting,

in your film I think was a group of people

who were very aware of the choice that they were going into.

They're very aware of

the fact that she wanted to be,

she wanted to win gold, she wanted to do those things.

And in the case of someone like Jeff,

this is a group of people who had no,

he was fine just working at Costco--

- Into in the limelight.

- Yeah.

He was just like...

And his family was like, "What is this?

"Who are we when that happens?

I mean...

- I think they're both a product of their environment too.

Their upbringing obviously affected

the people they turned into

and then affected the way they handle a situation like fame

when it was kind of unwanted perhaps and...

- [Jake] Yeah.

You should have seen the sign I made for you.

- What did it say?

- It had like 3D letters and everything.

(sobbing)

Hey.

- I have a few questions.

A, how much time do you spend with him?

When did you meet him for the first time and how was that?

And also how did you jump onto the project

because you produced it as well.

Your first producing venture?

- My company produced it.

I produced other movies but this is the first

film that my company produced, yeah.

- So did you know when reading the script

that it wanted to be,

you wanted it to be a producing vehicle

and an acting vehicle or...

- [Jake] No, I think--

- It just turned out that way.

- We're pretty ambitious and we have a lot

of different projects in development

but this was one that I had read very early on,

has a very early draft

before any filmmaker was on it and thought

this character is incredible.

I was laughing three or four pages into it

and I was surprised by that

because I thought this was going to be

a different kind of character.

And then I called up Erik Feig at Lionsgate and I said,

"Hey, I really want to do this."

He said, "Let me find a filmmaker first."

And so they went to David Gordon Green,

and then when David came on he said he wanted to come to me

and then we met up.

And then there were sort of two...

At a certain point all of a sudden

this other Boston movie came up and everybody sort of

was a little like, "What's gonna happen?"

And we being the sort of smaller duck

we kind of felt things slipping.

And so I brought them the script to the company

that finances my company, we had just sort of--

- Focus, right?

- No, to Bold. - Bold, sorry.

- Yeah.

And I said, "Do you guys want to do this?

And they said, "Yes."

And then all of a sudden we were

producing the film with Todd Lieberman and

Mandeville, his company.

So it was like, I had initially just come on as an actor

and then by bringing a financing then start producing

and now I haven't slept for two years.

- I feel you.

I also have not slept in so long.

Did you understand,

because I didn't really understand the full scope

of what a producer does until I'm now in the thick of it.

And it's like 24/7, every minute of the day.

It's so rewarding, I'm sure you find as well,

but it's also so hard and I never really gave

producers the credit that they probably deserve.

- I don't think that producers

get the credit that they deserve,

unless they're up there at an award show getting an award.

- But even then everyone's like,

"You showed up for a couple of days with this shoot

"and like you know and it's like."

Oh no, you spend years of your life,

like years of it on a project.

- Which is why I understand people going like,

"Why are you actors trying to get into this space?"

But I mean I grew up in

my parent, my mother produced films that she wrote

and so I saw the,

the consistent failure that is producing

more than any I think any job on a film set

or in pre-production or post or anything.

It is just, it's like a sort of seemingly like strange...

You like...

Just constant failure and then all of a sudden

you're seemed maybe you're halfway up the mountain.

It's like, occasionally a day is great,

you have a great day, and all these things go really well,

and then rest of the week is just like

everything seems to be falling apart.

But it actually gives me great patience

as an actor in particular because I think,

I think you realize that in these moments where

one little thing becomes a big deal, it's really not at all.

And eventually the organism of something

is supposed to head in the direction it's going

and you really don't have that much control over it.

- You've been in the business a lot longer than I have.

Your first job was when you were 11--

- 11.

- I believe.

So how long?

20...

20 years, more than years.

- Arithmetic.

Hmm, yeah.

- Well, you've been doing it--

- 25, like almost, yeah.

- And you come from a family who's

heavily ingrained in the film industry.

I'm correct in saying?

- Yeah, my immediate family, yes.

- So did you...

Well, one thing I wanted to know was,

was there a conscious choice to become an actor

or do you think you grew up in that...

If you grew up and no one in your family

was in the business,

do you think you would have found your way

into the business anyway?

Or do you ever wonder what you'd be doing

if you weren't doing this?

- Absolutely, I definitely do.

- What do you think?

- I don't know,

you asked those questions at different times.

I think I don't really know,

because that's why I'm an actor

and why I'm like playing different parts

and pretending like I'm doing a real job.

But I think that,

it's also this crazy blessing that is

really a lot about luck.

And I'm sure you feel that way too it's like

you find yourself in a position where

you've had a lot of luck

and that makes me feel very grateful.

But being around this business my whole life I think

there are a lot of aspects that feel like family.

I think we all come to this

space one way or another to find different families

and then we do in different--

- Do you get this?

Because every time I do a job I tell myself before I'm like,

"Don't get attached to everyone."

You do this every time and every time the job ends

you're so upset and devastated,

don't do it this time and then I harden myself to it

and then like two weeks in and I'm in love with everyone

and we're a big happy family and I never want it to end.

I'm a week away from finishing the film I'm working on now

and I'm--

- Heartbroken?

- I'm already getting that,

I'm so scared about finishing

because I just don't want to leave everyone.

Do you get that after this many years?

- I try not to end it.

I try not to end it, like this movie in the space

I'm still friends with Jeff, we're all still in it,

we talk almost every day, so I think it's that,

that thing where I think now I've tried to sort of...

I was working with an actor once and he said to me,

"There comes a moment where you have to realize

"that this is your life when you're on a set

"if you have the opportunity to work like this.

"And stop fooling yourself that you're gonna go off and..."

he's like, "Figure out what the things that you like."

He said, "I like to cook when I come home."

So I would always like to find an apartment

in the city I live in because

that's my life and what I like to do,

I like to play the guitar and I like to cook.

And that's what I decided and I thought,

"Wow, yeah, we all kind of live in this space we're like,

"we're gonna get to that." or,

and really you're in that space,

that's what I've realized.

But I will say, did you feel, because it's interesting

in thinking about these two characters

they were both kind of thrust into the spotlight

in a particular way.

First, initially for your character because of her choice

and then also because of the event that happened

in a whole different light,

and all of a sudden she became somebody totally different.

- You're so pretty

- No, I'm not.

You are.

- Did you relate to her?

Do you relate to that idea?

- That was something she asked me about when we met.

She said, "How you dealing with with fame and being famous?"

And, I actually,

it was very kind of her to ask

because to be honest I was like,

"Your situation was horrible."

And it happened to her so young,

and I think what made the biggest difference

in the world was,

she didn't have a support network around her

and I do and I'm so lucky.

I didn't start working professionally

until I had finished high school.

I had a very clear bookend

from my childhood to my adulthood,

from my life outside of the film business--

- You have always been very clear about that.

Your life and your work is very important to you

in separating those two things.

- It is, it is.

And my friends and my family

and no one is connected to the business whatsoever.

And I guess it's bittersweet living outside of Australia

because I miss everyone so much.

But the fact that they are so removed from it

helps me keep my life and my work separate

even though they are intrinsically linked

because all I want to do is work all the time.

Honestly, I never complain, but I love it,

I just want to be on set all the time.

Yeah, becoming famous at her age

without a support network around her

and without that clear distinction

I think would be incredibly difficult

and I'm grateful that I have people around me,

great people around me.

Both my team in the business

and my family and friends outside the business.

So yeah, it's a weird thing and it's,

you can never presume what it's going to be like

until you're actually in it.

But you adapt and be grateful for the things you have.

- I think that's true.

I learned from Jeff that just,

that he didn't really, he didn't ask for those things.

He didn't ask for the attention and to become that thing

but he has slowly evolved

into being able to hold that idea for people

and to see the hope.

- I felt that in the film so much,

the moment when he, you really see the characters,

his mindset really transitioned from resenting

the position he's been put in.

Not just physically and the horrible trauma that brought,

but having that responsibility

to be the beacon of hope to everyone

is a huge responsibility that he never asked for,

he didn't ask to be that guy

and that was heartbreaking to watch.

And I was in tears in the moment when he's

at the Red Sox game and you can just see that it's,

he suddenly realizes that responsibility he has

and the positive impact it can have on the people around him

by just listening to their story

and shaking their hand and

I was bawling by that part.

I mean there's a lot of parts in the film that made me cry

but that one to me was so moving and important and it's,

like I said earlier, I guess

in this business we want to entertain

but we want to entertain in a meaningful way

and that moment in your film just feels very meaningful.

Like one of those films you finish and you're like,

"I'm so glad I feel like I went through that

"and I'm glad I did that.

"I'm glad I watched that and I feel..."

Yeah, it's very emotive.

- That means a lot.

Thank you, that's really sweet of you to say.

I think that movies bring and can bring joy

and I think that that's what I feel Jeff showed me

is that his spirit when you get touched by him

or you're around him or if he were here you would feel,

you'd feel so happy to be alive.

And also just he has such a great sense of humor

and makes all my petty crap seem like petty crap.

And all the things I take super seriously,

I think he just always puts it in perspective for me

in this way.

And I don't know if he was like that

even before this situation,

he may have just had that in him.

But I think, we can only learn

how we move people from other people

I think in a lot of ways,

you can see how people respond in it.

It means so much to me that, that the movie moved you

and you should know how much your movie moved me.

And I think that's really important for us

to tell each other, all of us to share that and to connect

because I feel like what else are we making movies for.

- Yeah, exactly.

- You showed the world that they can't break us

no matter what the hell they do.

You know it gave me a little hope.

It made me feel a little better.

And I just want to say thank you for that, man, that's all.

- What's your name?

- My name's Larry.

- Can you imagine if Dr. Johnny...

I don't know if you seen that movie but Dr. Johnny

who I play on Okja met Harley Quinn, that would be...

- I haven't seen Okja yet,

but I did hear that your character is like very...

- I feel like we wore the same shorts maybe.

- You saw my outfit?

I knew this was gonna happen.

- Maybe your your socks, yeah, maybe I...

- No, I really want to see it

because I did hear you did like--

- You can't already hear it, it's still happening.

It's so loud, you might be able to experience it now.

No, the performance--

- Oh.

Was it really?

- Yeah--

- Did you enjoy that?

Do you think of yourself as a character actor or...

- I think that in the case of that it was,

to me it was, like that role was so polarizing to people,

some people thought it was great

and some people thought it was horrible

and that was exactly where I want to be.

- Yeah.

- And I think you know,

you live in a place where creativity gets sort of like

washed through this thing

where it's supposed to please everyone

and in the space of making choices there.

I mean I remember walking out,

everyone walking out on the outfit in New York City

because we've been shooting in Korea,

I wear this crazy outfit.

And I remember walking out, everyone's like,

"You know there's paparazzi out there."

and I was like, "This is how I've always wanted to look

"in front of photographers."

It feels like you want to be able to make bold choices

that throw things off for yourself, right?

And then you also sort of throw things off for others,

it's super fun.

And Bong Joon-ho is an incredible director,

and the movie is so moving so.

- Do you want to keep doing

kind of outlandish characters like that?

Have you always wanted to do that

or you're gonna continue to do that?

- That's how I wake up in the morning.

That was just--

- And then you just chill yourself out for the...

- For the Actor on Actor interview, yeah.

I'm forced to put on a suit

and come here and act like you know...

- Responsible and serious.

- Responsible and serious, yeah.

What about you?

Aren't you doing another one?

- Yeah.

I hope to be playing Harley again at least next year.

I love her.

I mean...

I love any character that...

Every character I played doesn't feel like

I don't feel like myself and that's why I like doing it,

which is why it's so weird

when people want to know about you because you're like,

"But wait, my whole job is not being me.

"Me? I don't know, I'm boring,

"but these characters are amazing, ask about them."

And Harley's one of those insane characters

and people do seem to really like us,

I hope I get to keep playing her.

But no, I love that, and it's so nice,

like right now I'm working on a

indie film that we're producing as well.

It's a six million dollar film and with very small crew

and a second-time film director and,

I love it so much and the idea that I get to do that

and then walk into a hundred million dollar film set

with pyrotechnics and all that crazy stuff

and have my baseball bat

and do a totally different thing is just...

Oh, it just occurred to me, we've both worked it David Ayer.

- Yes, we have.

Yes, we have.

- End of Watch by the way was one of my favorite films

and the reason I signed on for Suicide Squad

was because I love End of Watch so much

and I saw it about four times at least and all.

- That was a really special...

- [Margot] I don't know if I told you that.

- You never told me that.

- Didn't I?

- Just in front of the camera.

- Just so you know, Jake and I go way back to yesteryear,

and that's something else I wanted to ask you.

'Cause when we met you were doing, we met...

Did we decide it was five or six years ago?

- I don't know.

Yes, six probably I think.

- A while ago.

- Yeah.

- And you were doing a play in New York.

- And you were about to start Wolf of Wall Street.

- And I had my first day of Wolf of Wall Street

the next day.

- Oh, that's right.

Oh, wow.

- And you were like, "Wait, why are you out tonight?

"Why don't you..."

I was like, "I'm just so scared.

"I need to keep my mind..."

- I was like, "You looked really tan too."

- I was like, "I've had a spray tan.

"And these nails."

My life for the next six months.

The smell still haunts me.

But you were doing theater and I loved that play.

I loved you in it, you were so, so good

and I haven't yet had the chance to do theater

and it's something I plan on doing.

And I was wondering,

what do you feel you get out of doing theater

that you don't doing film and vice versa.

And will you be returning to the stage?

- It was a very long name of a play.

- If I'm there you're there and...

- If There Is I Haven't Found It Yet.

- If There Is I Haven't Found It Yet.

- [Jake] The play that I was doing.

- I remember your performance just not the title.

- Yes, thanks.

It was by Nick Payne, who's a wonderful British playwright.

And I then did his other show called Constellations

which is really kind of a masterwork.

- With Ruth Wilson?

- With Ruth Wilson, yeah.

I think the stage, I think we're all different,

we're all different animals.

I think that I admire people who can really...

Movie acting is very particular,

it's almost like these little sprints,

it's like delivering in a very short period of time.

Something magical, something dense and full of choices

and sometimes it takes some choices to do that

and a lot of mistakes along the way,

it's a much more imperfect process in the moment.

But I feel like on stage there's

the animal that you have to be is a very different one,

it's sort of a much more, it's an endurance animal.

And I feel like there's preparation before

and the choices are made through,

I think the messy part is much earlier on.

- Right.

- And so to me I feel like you're also tested in that space,

your bold choices can be made

and you have to make them bolder.

And working in the theater has made,

made it possible for me to make more confident,

bolder choices when I'm on set,

because I don't really care about all these people here,

we are connecting in a different way,

it's not like it's judgment, it's like it's something else.

Sometimes I used to feel that way

before I did more theater work,

because when I was on set I was always like

very sensitive to people watching.

- On what they thought of your performance

or what you were doing?

- No, I just think it's weird.

Here we are talking in we're on a set

and half of the set is there

and then the other half is like--

- Let's be honest, they're on their iPhones,

playing like Candy Crush--

- They really don't look like it.

They look pretty interested.

- You guys...

- Four of them are like...

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