James Clapper Says He Was Unaware Of Paul Manafort Wiretap Order
from a Director of National Intelligence so good to have you on sir good evening
to you director clapper there have been so many developments in this rushed
investigation and I want to ask you first about new information I was first
reported in the New York Times tonight that special counsel mauler is asking
the White House for documents directly related to the president's actions and
behavior while in office how do you read what Marla is asking for well first on I
don't have any inside baseball innate this so on destroying inferences like
everyone else's and some extent this reminds me that metaphor about lots of
wine people touching the elephant and trying to describe the elephant I would
say though that it appears to me that the the scope of the investigation is
broadening and deepening as the request for information as they have been
reflected in the media reporting seems to be getting more and more pointed and
more and more specific so I don't you know I don't know where this is all
going to lead I don't know if you know this is implicating the president or not
but does this mean the president could be the central focus of Mars probe well
it's again the inference you could draw is that he is but you know I don't know
that I would say and I've said this some time ago when a former director Moore
was first appointed to the position of Special Counsel that if there it is in
his estimation there was no there-there he'd say so it appears at least from
what's going on there is there there and I don't exactly know where this is going
to lead well I'll also repeat something I've said on
more than one occasion is that it is so critical that the this whole process
whether in the Congress or certainly the investigation of Special Counsel come to
a conclusion that is then transparently explained to the American people CNN
also has some exclusive reporting involving Paul manna for president
Trump's former campaign chairman specifically that investigators got a
FISA warrant to wiretap manna port before and mana Ford before and after
the election what's your reaction to that well I can't comment on specific
fysop order I said some things about this on Meet the Press on the fifth of
March and I stand on on that statement I can't I can't confirm it tonight I just
so let me play it and then get your just to remind people of what you said and
this is what you said to Chuck Todd this is back in March and as you said on Meet
the Press and then we'll finish up let me start with the president's tweets
yesterday this idea that maybe President Obama ordered an illegal wiretap of his
office's if something like that happened would this be something you would be
aware of well we really hope so I can't say obviously I'm not I can't speak
officially anymore but I will say that for the part of the national security
apparatus that I oversaw as DNI there was no such wiretap activity mounted
against the president the president-elect at the time as a
candidate or against his campaign I can't speak for other title three
authorized entities in the government or a state or local and say if the FBI for
instance had it fights a court order of some sort first surveillance would that
be information you would know or not now yes you would be told that I would know
yet if there was a fight a court order something like this something like this
or absolutely and at this point you can't confirm or deny whether that
exists art can deny it there is no FISA Court order not not to
my knowledge have anything at Trump Tower No
okay so the president's allies say that the fact that man afford was wiretap
proves that the president was right to accuse a former president of wiretapping
him and you were wrong what's your response well I again I I stand on that
statement that you just replayed and I cannot comment on the media reporting
which is all we have about a FISA warrant allegedly lodged against mr.
manna fort I I can't comment on that I will simply reiterate what I said in
March and I stand on that yeah and that there is as far as Trump Tower being
wiretapped according to the president you're you say what I stand on what I
said on the 5th of March on Meet the Press as you just replayed it okay so
did you know and I had to keep just wanted just for clarity because there's
been a lot of reporting on this right and people aren't on on especially those
supporters of the president saying oh he is Cruz he was proof so did you know
about a FISA warrant against Paul Mann afford at the time I did not you did not
okay no and again I have to say that what we have is media reporting only and
actually commenting on you know faces are classified and so you know if I knew
something about it I couldn't and I don't and I again I will just conclude
by saying I stand on what I said on the 5th of March is it possible the
president was picked up in a conversation with Paul Manafort it's
it's certainly conceivable yes that likely I can't say I I wouldn't want to
go there but I will say it's it's it's possible okay the Washington Post is
also reporting tonight that that while Paul Manafort was working for Donald
Trump he offered to privately brief a Russian
oligarch Oleg Deripaska on the campaign how would the Russians interpret that
mr. clapper well obviously a you know perhaps they
would regard it perhaps as a winning accomplice again as part of their
overall campaign to interfere with the election so if they had a a wedding and
willing participant who would engage with them talked with them who in their
mind had some inside access or influence in the campaign which at one point mr.
Manfred certainly did I think they would view that as a a favorable line of
exploitation I have to ask you about the meeting the President had with the in
the Oval Office with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and the former
ambassadors forget kiss lay I wear a president Trump bragged about firing
Comey to the Russian saying it relieved great pressure on him people on both
sides of the out grasp at these pictures are gasp as you see at these pictures do
you think that that moment will come back to haunt President Trump well it
could it's not to say that such meetings are not are inappropriate I I had
personally was somewhat taken aback by that from from if no other point of view
there's just the security standpoint and why the fact that only Russian media
media were permitted in the Oval and all one Russian photographers were allowed
to take pictures so I just they were closely screened and just the the notion
of this supposed solicitousness with the Russians has been for me at least
bothersome particularly in light of the demonstrated interference in in our in
our election and it's appearing more and more to me that the intelligence
committee assessment that we published in the 6th of January
may have only been perhaps the tip of the iceberg can I ask I just want to go
back to and get your response to something because in September second
this president's own Justice Department said that there was no evidence to
support the president's claim that President Barack Obama offered
wiretapping of Trump Tower during the 2016 presidential campaign again as the
Justice Department said in a new court filing wouldn't the Justice Department
his Justice Department know about if there was a fire suffice a warrant if
there was any sort of wiretapping on Trump Tower yes absolutely
and I believe director Comey said much the same thing in his testimony on March
16th before the house left committee for intelligence so the president's own
Justice Department came to the conclusion after investigating that
there was no wiretapping of Trump Tower that's that's what that's that's what I
draw from that yes thank you mr. clapper I appreciate it
- Don thank you well thank you god bless you and God bless america
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