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Illegal Aliens Crash Nancy Pelosi's DACA Press Conference

now this video comes with a trigger warning in it you will see a white woman

telling a group of people of color to be quiet so she can whites playing to them

please have any small children cover their ears in fact you should probably

cover your own to watch this for a long time we've been fighting the fight for

the dreamers my car

do you want it do you want to hear an answer

or do you just want to shout

yes I am yes I am yes I am you do not

the revolution always consumes itself now why were those people so mad at

Pelosi well they're furious that she's negotiating with the President to

protect daca beneficiaries from being deported instead they want a total and

immediate amnesty for all 11 million maybe 15 million or molinos illegal

immigrants currently in this country LaVon seja is an illegal immigrant he's

the founder of undocumented Vaughn thanks off coming up thank you for

having me Tucker I am undocumented a daca beneficiary and actually born a

crime when I was immigrating here at nine months old

huh so I guess what I find so striking about that video and about a lot of

other things that I've seen in the past few weeks is the lack of gratitude and

the hostility from people who are really getting a pretty good deal from the

United States apparently people who are here illegally breaking US law

benefiting in a lot of ways from u.s. society which is the richest in the

world most orderly the cleanest the fairest and yet seem hostile toward the

United States I never hear a single person thing you know what thank you why

not I wonder I believe that undocumented immigrants daca recipients are simply

reacting to what's continued being continuing to being done over years and

that is they're talking about us but they're not talking with us they are not

including us in the conversations and this is something that's going to be

addressed both parties will be held accountable

people have something to refer to records to indicate how promising these

agreements can be and that's voting record we're gonna be holding people on

both sides of the party who at some point may have voted against us and

that's all we have that's the only premise or time you're issuing a threat

and I want to understand what that threat means you're saying isn't illegal

here is not you're not a US citizen you're saying you and other non-us

citizens are going to hold US citizens accountable for not being nice enough to

non-us you're saying what I'm saying is that

these elected officials are there to represent all constituents including

undocumented immigrants that live in these communities and although we do not

vote them indirectly we do take great part in our community and also record

will ask to be represented we are paying taxes we are contributing to the

community and we just ask for representation no no what you just and

by the way I've always been very Pro immigrant and am in some ways still in

and Pro immigration actually you're making me very anti-immigration by what

you're saying right now because of its tone but also because of the threat you

just issued to people who don't see it your way you're not a US citizen the US

government exists to serve the needs and protect the needs of US citizens it does

not exist to protect needs of non-us citizens do you see the distinction I

think all countries are that way all of them I also understand do you understand

you know taxation without representation something that this country was founded

on I believe we are paying taxes I believe we deserve to be represented I'm

not issuing any threat other than we are gonna go ahead and no longer allow

people to make agreements that jeopardize our community behind our back

we want to be protected we want to have relief that includes our parents our

brothers or uncle's who don't fit the typical dreamer narrative per se but why

do you have a right to demand anything I mean if I by the way let me just be

really clear for the fifth time I'm sympathetic to a lot of the daca people

because they didn't choose to come here illegally but it I'm more sympathetic to

American citizens because I am one and I have something in common with them

because they're Americans too and so I don't understand

on what grounds you make these demands if I show up in someone else's country

and say you know what I demand to have a voice in the political system here I

demand benefits I demand respect they say buzz off pal leave like you

have no position from which to demand those things do you see what I mean now

I understand the context of the video that you were referring to those are

daca beneficiaries 800,000 which are now in limbo as a result of the loss of daca

or the threat to it and there isn't anything happening the next six months

so they are reacting to that these are people who are very much well involved

in our communities they are teaching our children they are police officers

firemen paramedics even in the recent hurricane hits they were putting their

lives on the line to save other people and it's just nonsense okay yeah some of

them are great some of them some of them are criminals and drug dealers they're

people okay so not all of them are future Medal of Honor recipients let's

stop with the propaganda I'm asking a much bigger question about what

citizenship means and about the rights of people from other countries to demand

political influence and money from a country that's not theirs

and I'm just saying it's a kind of a weird posture and then titled posture

for you to take like I demand this really I what grounds are you following

me again they are bear contributing to this

country and they deserve to some are been here for years they are not in you

and that applies to every population I know plenty of good citizens I know

plenty of bad citizens if you want to go by the I agree with that people in

everywhere but they're citizens and non-citizens that's the distinction that

the left is seeking to erase we're all the same and my point is no the point of

a government is to look out for the citizens that's why a citizen is

different from a non citizen you are subject to the laws of but also

benefiting from the protections of a government I mean I don't understand one

in the world who wants to come the United States can just show up but you

know go on benefits reap the benefits of our society like why would we allow that

nobody's actually doing that actually there is no line right now for anyone in

this country to get behind there are forums etc applications that people can

apply for from their respective countries we're talking about as

millions of people who are already here 800,000 a cup in offici areas who are

currently in limbo these are people who there there's no line to get behind just

to put things in perspective the immigration system is currently

processing applications from 1995 something we have no control over just

to show what's he know that's but that's really not you know up to you to like or

dislike because you don't have grounds for that and look I would I would can

see that the daca some of the docket kids are a little bit different because

they came here as small children as you did but for the 11 to 15 million people

who snuck in the country are using forged documents to work

undercutting the wages of American citizens on what basis did they get to

tell me as an American citizen I want this I demand that like what why would a

normal society take that seriously you have no right to demand anything if

you're one of those people do you again I'm one of the many examples of people

millions who have been here for decades we've been contributing with these your

major distinction your every morning okay and so you think that all investors

yeah it's a curse push and pull factors for this immigration you know they're

pull factors being that we are the largest economy and we require workers

to sustain it well so the push factors are that garbage you learned that basic

somebody you went to actually got almost 100 million of Americans American

citizens not working right now so like don't tell me let's talk about let's put

it in perspective there are 11 million undocumented immigrants there's 320

million u.s. population are you gonna tell me that three point five percent of

the population responsible for the problems of the other close to ninety

seven percent would never make you know that's just another ludicrous organ I

would never make that claim I don't think that I think the American people

like you are making I don't know who people like me are learn how to like

follow a rational train of thought I'm not saying that I've never said that I

don't think that I think Americans are responsible for mostly their own

problems but importing millions of low-wage workers every year does not

help not in this economy and you know it but you don't care anyway Livan thank

you no I do care and yeah I can tell

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