What is my ethnic background? - Yes
Mixed
Sasson Geva Binyamin (West Bank settlement)
My grandfather and grandmother came from
the border of Iraq
a Kurdish area
What village? - Persian, I don't know
You don't know
Because the Kurds want to know
So Persian and Iraqi
Together
What do you still do in your home or life
that is connected to Kurdistan?
Such as food, music
Mostly culture
which is music
and food
Give me an example of music someone famous?
Music I mean musical style
Like Arab music
the melody, the atmosphere
less mechanical music rather music with different sounds
like the Oud
all kinds of instruments that you don't see in Western music
Old (classic) Arabic songs
Ok but what about Kurdish?
I am saying it is the same type
What foods?
Kubbe
Eggplant, okra that kind of food
Are you interested in traveling there to see it?
Of course
I am interested in all countries not just there specifically
Has anyone in your family gone there to visit?
No
Would you move there? That's what they are asking
No
Of course not
We miss it (the culture)
It is missing in our lives in some ways
The Kurdish culture?
Yes
But not
but we wouldn't want to live like that
but in some ways, we do want to understand it and learn from it
and to know it
In Israel
what happened was
they tried to unify us into one nation
a way of life
from the start of the country they believed that you need to be a certain way
and they put to the side the cultures of the Kurds
Iraqis and other cultures
which was the wrong thing to do
They wanted to create for us a certain culture
to point us in a certain (cultural) direction
and that we should forget things like our foods and music
and other things
It looks like they weren't very successful
because from my experiences there are many cultures in Israel
and each contributes something
That's what is so beautiful It is amazing
Are you Kurdish from both sides?
From my mother's side
What's her last name? -Avshalom
Where did they come from?
From Kurdistan, Mosel
Mosel
Mosel is Iraq
No, Mosel is exactly between Kurdistan and Iraq
Film the sign
This is where we pray our synagogue
"Immigrants of Amedia"
Amedia is from Kurdistan
So this is a Kurdish synagogue
I found the right place
What do you still do today that is connected to being Kurdish?
I am a simple man
I love the People of Israel
I eat a lot of Kubbe and Kutele
That's what's important
Kutele? What is Kutele?
Small Kubbe
with rice, that is what is kutele
They have a lot of good foods
most of it is Eastern foods
The Kurdish people are a simple people
and the miracle of the Kurdish (Jews) is that they don't have a language
or a writing system
The Kurdish (Jews) don't have a specific language
they speak Aramaic
Aramaic - you are talkinig about the Jews
Yes, the Jews and they don't have any writings
they don't have a written language
like other languages
So they pass things on (verbally) from generation to generation
from generation to generation
Do you listen to Kurdish music with the Zorno...
We pray here in the Kurdish (Jewish) melody
Jewish Kurdish melody
Because the people asking are Muslim Kurds
They are asking what you do
They are not familiar with any of this
So I am explaining
I work at the grave of King David on Mount Zion
Which is?
The grave of King David
And people from all over the world come there
2 weeks ago a group came from Kurdistan
Elders from Kurdistan
So we sat together and spoke
Muslims? Yes, Muslims
Wow
If you could travel there to see...
Yes, you should go!
No, I mean you
Would you go?
Of course I would go
What about living there?
One of the heads of the synagogue Raphael Daouki
from Daouk in Kurdistan
And he goes there every few years
The last time he was there was
three years ago
But because of the whole mess with Turkey and the groups
so he stopped but he used to go every few years
He said it was beautiful Beautiful mountains...
Why did he go there?
Today it is a mess because of ISIS in Iraq...
the entire situation...
But why did he go there?
to visit?
He missed it
His grandparents...
Nice
Ok the situation in the area is a mess today
but would you go live there?
To live? No because there is nothing better than the Land of Israel
We came here to live in the Land of Israel
But visit, of course
What is your cultural background?
Kurdish
On both sides? Yes
Barak Noga
Do you still do anything Kurdish? - Yes
What?
I dance. I am in a Kurdish dance group
Really? - Yes
What is the dance called?
There are many dances
Give me some names
Chopi
Is it different than the regular dabka?
Yes
Can you show me?
I can't, I need at least two people
You have a partner
Ok
What about food? Which foods?
Different Kubbes, Yaprach
Lots
Kurdish music?
There are lots of singers
Do you know any singers from Kurdistan?
Which?
In Kurdistan or here in Israel?
Not Israeli
From there
There are many
Do you remember names?
There is...
Nice
If someone from Kurdistan is watching, that's why I ask
We see them at home on satelite
A channel?
A Kurdish TV channel
Do you speak the language?
No, a word here and there
The Jewish Kurdish language (Aramaic) or the Kurdish language?
My parents speak the language
The Jewish language
No, the language...
of the non-Jews there
Do they speak the Jewish Kurdish language?
Yes
I forgot what its called
Aramaic - right, its a form of Aramaic
Where are they from in Kurdistan?
Iraq?
Yes, my mother is from Iraqi side and my father is from
near Iran
In Iraq, do you know which city? - Irbil
In Iran, do you know? - Yes Samblad
Would you visit there?
Actually, I think it is dangerous there now
If there was the possibility, I would go
Would you go live there?
No - Why?
Live there? What would I do there?
What is your cultural background?
Me, I am Mizrahi
From where?
Kurdish
Both sides? Yes, both sides
Nir Jerusalem
Where in Kurdistan?
I have no idea
My grandfather would know
Do you know if Iraq, Iran?
Turkey?
I think northern Iraq but I am not sure
You are a bad Kurd
I know
Do you eat Kurdish foods?
Of course
Such as?
Kubbe
Which Kubbe?
There are many kinds
I know, give some names
Hamusta, beat
Hamo
The best
Do you listen to Kurdish music?
No
No zorno what is the instrument called?
I know what you mean but I have no idea
I don't know anything about my cultural background at all
Sad
No to music What about language?
The Kurds spoke a Kurdish Yiddish
I know only one word in Kurdish and it is a swear word
Ok, what is it?
Which means?
Like "fuck your mother"
Would you want to visit there?
No
You don't know where it is
But why not?
What is there, there? Desert?
Sand
Could be
What's your ethnic background?
Kurdish
On both sides? - No
Maroccan
Adi Golan Heights
Which side is from Kurdistan? My father
Where in Kurdistan?
Any idea? - No
Iraq, Turkey?
No, no idea
You just know you are Kurdish
The Iran-Iraq area
Ok Persian area
What do you still do at home connected to Kurdistan?
Eat Kubbe
Which?
Kubbe Hamusta
I know it
I can see on your face that you eat it too
bread, meat patties
that are Kurdish
I don't know that one
It's probably Persian
I know the Iraqi side better
But it's all similar
Do you listen to Kurdish music?
Only at family celebrations
Do you have your own dance?
Chopi we call it
It is similar to (debka)
you dance in a circle
If you could, would you or your father
go back to visit?
Or live?
No, neither I nor my father would
Visit?
To visit?
Doubtful
Maybe out of curiosity we would
Like as a family to see your roots? - No, no
Maybe because of the war going on there
I think the Persian side is safe
The violence is more in Iraq
Still, it is part of Iran
dangerous
Yes, for us Jews, Iran is scary
You said you are half Kurdish?
Yes
And the other side?
The other side.... Syrian (Allepo)
Ori Maale Adumim (West Bank settlement)
What do you eat?
What do we eat?
Every Friday evening (Shabbat meal)
we have something different
Friday night we go to our grandmothers and eat rice
chicken and Kubbe
Which Kubbe?
Kubbe Hamusta
Sometimes grandmother makes orange Kubbe
Beat kubbe
My grandmother's kubbe is the best
Do you listen to Kurdish music? - Yes
Where did your grandparents come from?
My grandmother is from Tunisia
My grandfather came from Kurdistan
Where in Kurdistan?
Do you know what city?
This neighbourhood is made up of Jews from Zacho Iraq
Hold on, mom!
What city was grandfather from?
Zacho
That's it
My grandmother
I don't know which area she came from
I am asking about Kurds
Do you listen to Kurdish music? - Yes
Every wedding on our Kurdish side we have
we play Kurdish music
If you had the money and the possibility
would you visit Zacho?
Yes
To see your grandfather's place
To see where my grandfather was born
You are Kurdish
From where?
Iraq
Which city?
Mosul
Golani Jerusalem
Your parents.... - My parents were born in Israel
Born in Israel
So it's your grandparents that came
One came from Mosul
and the other from
Baghdad
Baghdad
So half Kurdish, half Iraqi
No, both are Kurdish from Iraq
Oh, there were Kurds in Baghdad then?
Yes
I didn't know that
What do you still do that is Kurdish?
For example, food, music
We eat Kurdish foods
All kinds of names that I don't know if they are interesting to you
They interest me
I don't know those
Foods specific to Kurds
Do you listen to Kurdish music?
Yes
Who?
Just songs
Give me an example of a song
Will you sing it?
No
I can't think of any names but there are all kinds
there is Khane
There are many I can't remember them
If the situation was better
in northern Iraq
would you visit?
Yes I would
Yes
Would you live there?
For sure I would visit but not to live
To live, only in Israel
What is your cultural background?
Kurdish
Kurdish from where?
Ben Jerusalem
Where are your parents from?
Iraq
Which village?
No, Iran
Both sides?
Yes
At home, what do you still do connected to Kurdistan? Food
Only foods
Only foods - Which?
Give examples
Kubbe
Kadde, things like that
Do you listen to Kurdish music? - Yes
Zorno?
Zurna, yes
During the holiday Shavuot
there is a Kurdish festival
I have to get back to work
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